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Re: Tino Sanandaji: Sverige kommer att bli som Latinamerika

Inläggav Migi » ons 13 jan 2016, 14:21

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Re: Tino Sanandaji: Sverige kommer att bli som Latinamerika

Inläggav Nemesis » ons 13 jan 2016, 18:23

Ja, vissa sanningar ändras med tiden. Men det betyder inte att de är sanna och användbara i vår framtid.

Ta t ex påståendet "10% av syrierna i Sverige har en eftergymnasial utbildning på tre år eller mer". Detta måste rimligen vara sant eller falskt, oavsett vem som säger det, eller vilken syfte den som säger det har. Håller du inte med om detta så vet jag inte om det är värt att fortsätta diskutera.
"… all the data shows that most people are not influenced by rational arguments. They're influenced by social pressure. … That's just the human condition, and we just have to acknowledge it and accept it." - Steven Novella
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Re: Tino Sanandaji: Sverige kommer att bli som Latinamerika

Inläggav Dûrion Annûndil » tor 14 jan 2016, 08:14

Blåögd cyniker, pessimistisk livsnjutare.
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Re: Tino Sanandaji: Sverige kommer att bli som Latinamerika

Inläggav kipphebel3 » tor 14 jan 2016, 10:04

Precis. Om man verkligen läser Ruists långa rapport om invandring och offentliga finanser är han mycket tydlig med:

a) vad som är fakta
b) vad som är prognoser och förutsättningarna för dessa prognoser
c) spekulationer

Det finns väldigt litet av c) i Ruists text.
ho de anexetastos bios ou biôtos anthrôpôi — ὁ δὲ ἀνεξέταστος βίος οὐ βιωτὸς ἀνθρώπῳ !
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Re: Tino Sanandaji: Sverige kommer att bli som Latinamerika

Inläggav ScepticalDad » tor 14 jan 2016, 10:11

Censur enligt dagenshomeopati.se Modellen:
kommer aldrig fram, men inlägg kommer igenom censuren på samma ställe.
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Re: Tino Sanandaji: Sverige kommer att bli som Latinamerika

Inläggav Migi » tor 14 jan 2016, 18:14

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Re: Tino Sanandaji: Sverige kommer att bli som Latinamerika

Inläggav Nemesis » lör 16 jan 2016, 15:03

"… all the data shows that most people are not influenced by rational arguments. They're influenced by social pressure. … That's just the human condition, and we just have to acknowledge it and accept it." - Steven Novella
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Re: Tino Sanandaji: Sverige kommer att bli som Latinamerika

Inläggav Nemesis » lör 16 jan 2016, 15:05

"… all the data shows that most people are not influenced by rational arguments. They're influenced by social pressure. … That's just the human condition, and we just have to acknowledge it and accept it." - Steven Novella
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Re: Tino Sanandaji: Sverige kommer att bli som Latinamerika

Inläggav Nemesis » lör 16 jan 2016, 15:10

"… all the data shows that most people are not influenced by rational arguments. They're influenced by social pressure. … That's just the human condition, and we just have to acknowledge it and accept it." - Steven Novella
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Re: Tino Sanandaji: Sverige kommer att bli som Latinamerika

Inläggav Dûrion Annûndil » sön 17 jan 2016, 11:28

Blåögd cyniker, pessimistisk livsnjutare.
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Re: Tino Sanandaji: Sverige kommer att bli som Latinamerika

Inläggav kipphebel3 » sön 17 jan 2016, 11:33

Skulle kanske vara mera konstruktivt att diskutera Ruists rapport i stället. Den tar fram utmaningarna och diskuterar hur man löser dem, utan brunanstrykning...
ho de anexetastos bios ou biôtos anthrôpôi — ὁ δὲ ἀνεξέταστος βίος οὐ βιωτὸς ἀνθρώπῳ !
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Re: Tino Sanandaji: Sverige kommer att bli som Latinamerika

Inläggav Migi » tis 19 jan 2016, 15:12

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Re: Tino Sanandaji: Sverige kommer att bli som Latinamerika

Inläggav Migi » fre 17 feb 2017, 14:12

Skall bli intressant att se hur många gånger han refererar till postnummer (dvs bostadsort) i sin senaste bok...
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Re: Tino Sanandaji: Sverige kommer att bli som Latinamerika

Inläggav Migi » ons 22 feb 2017, 19:56

När vi ändå diskuterar grenen plocka billiga politiska poäng med halsbrytande liknelser så måste vi ju minnas .
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Re: Tino Sanandaji: Sverige kommer att bli som Latinamerika

Inläggav Nemesis » sön 26 feb 2017, 02:43

"… all the data shows that most people are not influenced by rational arguments. They're influenced by social pressure. … That's just the human condition, and we just have to acknowledge it and accept it." - Steven Novella
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