Printzensköld skrev: ↑lör 09 jan 2021, 18:26
Det går säkert att vara mer selektiv i sina åtgärder än i en lockdown av den typ vi ser idag. Skydda isolerade grupper och enbart implementera social isolering i vissa miljöer så att resten av samhället kan hållas öppet. Men det kräver kunskap. Kunskap som inte finns ännu på långa vägar (ännu mindre i mars), men som FoHM har låtsats att man haft, och fortfarande verkar göra tyvärr, när man egentligen bara har gissat. Arrogansen och det omotiverade självförtroendet är omöjliga att missa.
No, I don't think that it
säkert går, not even with enough knowledge. Speaking of islands, what it would have required is something similar to placing nursing homes on desert islands and isolating them completely from the mainland, except for transport of goods. No visitors of any kind, and staff would obviously have to be isolated along with the residents. If staff had to be switched, they would have to go through the same procedures as travelers to New Zealand: tests and long periods of isolation in quarantine facilities
on the islands, but i
solated from the nursing homes.
Covid deniers already complain about taking away people's freedom ...
And in your scenario, you forget the long-haulers: Many of them are quite young, and
we don't know who they are going to be until they have become long-haulers. They are not the frail old people with co-morbidities, so you would have to be willing to accept this loss of health as the virus was working its way through the population in the part of society that was to be kept open.
Men det svenska experimentet kommer säkerligen bidra med värdefull empiri för framtida epidemier.
For the Swedish 'experiment' to have been able to contribute with valuable data, Sweden would have had to be in possession of this data. The Swedish pandemic response, however, is hopelessly unfit to deliver in this respect as well, and you seem to be aware of this when you write,
"när man egentligen bara har gissat."
If FoHM had at least done large-scale testing and gene sequencing as the virus was spreading and mutating, they could have delivered
"värdefull empiri för framtida epidemier," but as it is, they haven't even been able to do that, and they probably wouldn't even have been interested in doing so if they could because it would have been proof of the amateurish incompetence of the whole institution.
At this point of the pandemic response when the vaccines are being rolled out, they don't even seem to know who is doing what and when, which is in glaring contrast to the level of information that you see in other countries.
This is the level of information that we receive in Denmark on a daily basis:
Status på coronavirus life nu (DR.dk, Jan. 8, 2021)
All the EU countries got the Pfizer vaccines at the same time. Sweden did, too! Knowing who gets vaccinated and when is also part of the data that will be of inestimable value to future researchers, but I seriously doubt that Sweden will be able to deliver in this department.
Sweden's contribution to science is at the level of: It is not a good idea to ignore the facts of the pandemic or the data that needs to be collected if you want to master it.
. Skulle gärna höra honom utveckla det resonemanget.
