Fånga en kanonkula

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cleve
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Fånga en kanonkula

Post by cleve » Tue 23 Nov 2021, 16:22

var ett populärt cirkusnummer på 1800-talet !
Men hur gick det till ?
Min förmodan är att kanonkulan var ihålig samt att svartkrutet hade en sådan sammansättning att det exploderade långsamt.

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Re: Fånga en kanonkula

Post by Thomas P » Wed 24 Nov 2021, 09:21

Jag tror att man hade en fjäder som sköt ut kulan för att få mer kontroll på farten och lite krut bara för att få ett rökmoln.

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Re: Fånga en kanonkula

Post by Procentaren » Wed 24 Nov 2021, 11:47

Frank ‘Cannonball’ Richards uppträdde med att bli skjuten i magen med en kanonkula.
Folk fick även prova att boxa honom honom i magen, eller hoppa på den.
Så det är tydligt att han hade kraftiga magmuskler.

Även den berömde trollkarlen Houdini uppträdde och lät folk boxa honom i magen. Det gick bra.
Men vid ett tillfälle boxade någon honom när han inte var beredd. Blindtarmen sprack, och han dog av det.

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Meet Frank ‘Cannonball’ Richards. In the 1920s, he put his ‘iron-clad-stomach’ to the test, encouraging spectators to jump on him and whack him with a sledgehammer. He even enlisting a heavyweight boxer to give it his best shot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqApQEC51bE

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Re: Fånga en kanonkula

Post by dann » Thu 25 Nov 2021, 06:42

Thomas P wrote:
Wed 24 Nov 2021, 09:21
Jag tror att man hade en fjäder som sköt ut kulan för att få mer kontroll på farten och lite krut bara för att få ett rökmoln.
You're right:
Round shot (Wikipedia)
The casualties from round shot were extremely gory; when fired directly into an advancing column, a cannonball was capable of passing straight through up to forty men[citation needed]. Even when most of its kinetic energy is expended, a round shot still has enough momentum to knock men over and cause gruesome injury. A round shot would not even have to make contact to create casualties; a near miss could cause internal injury or concussion, sometimes fatal, without leaving a mark on the victim, a condition known as "wind of a ball".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Round_shot
A Cannonball to the Stomach: The Story of Frank Richards (TheInternetSaysIt'sTrue)
... That led me to do further research and learn that the cannonball stunt by Frank Richards was just that – a stunt. The ball was real. It was actually 100 pounds. But the cannon was spring-loaded to propel the ball and release a cloud of smoke, but it wasn’t really being fired by gun-powder. The cannonball would receive just enough velocity to hit him in the stomach – and that it did. Any normal person would be knocked over and injured doing the stunt. But it’s important to note nonetheless – it wasn’t a real cannon.
https://theinternetsaysitstrue.com/2021/04/19/a-cannonball-to-the-stomach-the-story-of-frank-richards/
I have my doubts about the 100 pounds. Magicians are good at switching objects without people noticing. A 'cannonball' weighing 10 or 20 pounds would probably look convincing when being fired by this 'cannon'.

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Re: Fånga en kanonkula

Post by dann » Thu 25 Nov 2021, 06:51

cleve wrote:
Tue 23 Nov 2021, 16:22
var ett populärt cirkusnummer på 1800-talet !
I don't think so:
A Cannonball to the Stomach: The Story of Frank Richards (TheInternetSaysIt'sTrue)
Many people have seen the famous act of a person being fired from a cannon. It’s a feat that’s been performed in circuses and festivals all over the world. Well in the 1920s Frank Richards had an act with a cannon that was a little different. Rather than being fired from one, Frank Richards had a cannon fired at him. Like into his stomach. And I’ve looked around everywhere. This type of act had never been done before and – believe it or not – has never been done since. It was so popular and unique, he soon became known as “Cannonball Richards.”
https://theinternetsaysitstrue.com/2021/04/19/a-cannonball-to-the-stomach-the-story-of-frank-richards/

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Re: Fånga en kanonkula

Post by cleve » Sat 27 Nov 2021, 12:15

Två av de cirkusar som på 1800-talet utförde tricket var Cirkus Houcke och Cirkus Schreiber.

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Re: Fånga en kanonkula

Post by dann » Sun 28 Nov 2021, 09:27

You are right. TheInternetSaysIt'sTrue seems to have spent too little time searching.
John Holtum - Sømanden, der blev kanonkonge (HaderslevWiki)
'Da Akrobaten havde comanderet Fyr. Foer Kuglen ud. Holtum, der paa Hænderne havde Handsker, som var indgnedne med Olie, stod foran Kanonen og greb Kuglen, der faldt kraftesløs ned for hans fødder'.
Således beskrives verdens første kanonkonge i 1875. John Holtum var den første og ypperste af sin tids kanonkonger, også kaldet for kraftatleter, som jonglerede med et par kanonkugler eller et kanonrør.
http://haderslevwiki.dk/index.php/John_Holtum
JOHN HOLTUM: THE CANNONBALL KING
https://gymtalk.com/john-holtum-cannonball-king/

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Re: Fånga en kanonkula

Post by cleve » Sun 28 Nov 2021, 10:09

Holtum uppträdde med
Cirkus Houcke i Sverige
och
Cirkus Renz i Danmark.

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Re: Fånga en kanonkula

Post by cleve » Mon 29 Nov 2021, 07:25

Var går gränsen när det gäller att stoppa en kanonkula med händerna ?
Rörelsemängd eller rörelseeneri ? Antag att personen väger 90 kg.

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Re: Fånga en kanonkula

Post by dann » Mon 29 Nov 2021, 08:40

It was obviously a magic trick and not an actual cannon and cannonballs.

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Re: Fånga en kanonkula

Post by Procentaren » Mon 29 Nov 2021, 14:22

Även Homer Simpson har plagierat Frank Richards nummer.
Homers mage har ju rätt mycket dämpning :smile2:
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Ca en minut in i videon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0kXDBXSu80

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