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Re: Cuba

Post by dann » Wed 24 Nov 2021, 15:07

Cubans Don’t Want Regime Change (The Jacobin, Nov 16, 2021)
I talked to Cubans who had second thoughts about the usefulness of street protests. They came into the streets on July 11, spontaneously, with all kinds of legitimate gripes: the scarcity of food and medicines, the long lines for basic goods, the rapid spread of COVID-19, the hard currency stores they didn’t have access to. But in the intervening months between the July protests and November, many realized that street protests only created division when the country needed unity. They realized that despite all the social media hype, the government was not about to fall, and that even if it did, there was no telling what would follow. If it was chaos and civil strife, or a rush of voracious Cuban Americans trying to grab waterfront island properties, their precarious economic situation might be even worse.

“I was out protesting on July 11,” a young mother in Old Havana told me. “But since then, I’ve been weighing the pros and cons. The food situation here is terrible — we have to stand in lines for everything. On the other hand, we are safe. People don’t have guns and go around killing each other; the police don’t shoot people; we don’t have to worry about our children when they are outside playing, and they get a good education for free. If this government really collapsed, I’m afraid we might lose more than we gain.”
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2021/11/cuba-us-protests-reform-revolution-diaz-canel
This is in line with what I have heard from Cubans who are not politicized. I have listened to people complain for most of an hour about what they thought was wrong with Cuba, most of all the low wages, but then ending with: 'But if the Americans come here, I'll get hold of a gun and fight them!'
And speaking of guns: When la cubana in the quotation says, "the police don’t shoot people," she knows what she is talking about. She has seen the videos of police brutality in the USA, and she knows about police shootings and gang violence in other Latin American countries. She knows that Cuban police aren't trigger happy. And she knows about the U.S. blockade as well ...

And at this point, she also knows that "the rapid spread of COVID-19" is no longer a problem in Cuba. She knows about the vaccines developed by Cuba, and she herself has no doubt already been vaccinated with one of those vaccines at this point. All three jabs. That's the major difference between now and July 11. The food is on the way along with tourism, and with the sale of the Cuban vaccines and licenses to produce them abroad, now that the pandemic is almost over.

And I am pretty sure that not one single Cuban has been looking forward to watching with Schadenfreude as neighboring countries succumb to the fourth wave.
https://twitter.com/juanitafranden/status/1308316823234936833
On the contrary, they are probably already busy planning which countries to send their medical brigades to when their doctors and nurses have had some time to rest.

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Re: Cuba

Post by dann » Fri 26 Nov 2021, 15:12

Nemesis wrote:
Wed 20 Oct 2021, 18:45
Här kan du också läsa om vad Amnesty och Human Rights Watch har att säga om Kuba:
(...)
Att dessa organisationer skulle gå i USA:s ledband blir svårt att hävda, då de även kritiserar USA och länder som är allierade med USA.
Like many of the solely US-financed 'human rights organizations', Amnesty is prone to criticize countries without no fact checking at all if the message seems to be in line with their general purpose:
Amnesty UK accused of 'spreading false information' about Northern Territory Covid outbreak (Guardian, Nov 26, 2021)
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/nov/26/amnesty-uk-accused-of-spreading-false-information-about-northern-territory-covid-outbreak

Some years ago, I translated the English subtitles for two documentaries about Cuba:
Saul Landau: Will the Real Terrorist Please Stand Up (documentary, 2010)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1808673/
Bernie Dwyer: Mission against Terror (documentary, 2004)
https://www.cuba-venner.dk/vare/dvd-om-de-5-cubanske-antiterrorister-som-var-faengslet-i-usa/

In one of them - I no longer remember which one - a Cuban double agent shows how easy it is to make a Miami radio station report fake news about Cuba. He invents a lie, reports it to the Miami radio station (probably Radio Martí, but I don't remember), which then promptly reports it without first attempting to fact check it. As with the 'Havana Syndrome', most newspapers pick up and republish already-published stories like this one.

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Re: Cuba

Post by dann » Sat 27 Nov 2021, 13:21

The Yunior Garcia story:
Playwright Is in Exile as Cuba Uses an Old Playbook to Quash Dissent (NYT, Nov 21, 2021)
By last week, state-run television began running segments saying Mr. García was aiming to violently overthrow the government. He took it as a warning that he would soon be arrested.
Though he had obtained a 90-day visa from the Spanish government, Mr. García still planned to join the Nov. 15 protests. But he was blocked from leaving his home as the government stopped demonstrators from gathering.
Shortly afterward, Mr. García said, two friends sneaked him out of his home to a safe house where he spent two days before arriving in Spain. The government had posted guards in front of his home, but Mr. García said he believed he was not stopped because officials wanted him out of the country.
The reactions to his departure have been mixed on the Facebook group he founded. The group’s leaders, apparently unaware at first that he had fled, posted messages suggesting he had been kidnapped. Some commenters said they felt betrayed that he had left.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/21/world/americas/yunior-garcia-exile-spain.html
He allegedly fled because of threats, but he just happened to have already obtained a 90-day visa to Spain, which he hadn't mentioned to his friends, to whom Spain had issued no such visa. And two friends sneaked him out of the house past the security guards, who didn't stop him because they wanted him to leave? What is it? Did they sneak him out, or was he just allowed to leave? And if they wanted to arrest him, why let him leave?!
Cuban photo satire: Paisaje después de la batalla (Granma.cu, Nov 21, 2021)
https://www.granma.cu/pensar-en-qr/2021-11-21/paisaje-despues-de-la-batalla-21-11-2021-20-11-45

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Re: Cuba

Post by dann » Thu 09 Dec 2021, 21:09

Tokig tant wrote:
Thu 09 Dec 2021, 08:12
dann wrote:
Wed 08 Dec 2021, 15:42
Noise, noise, noise
Sveriges Radio; https://sverigesradio.se/artikel/varldskanda-forfattare-protesterar-mot-kubas-regering
Världskända författare protesterar mot Kubas regering
Publicerat igår kl 17.13
Över 300 kulturpersoner har skrivit under en uppmaning till Kubas regering att sluta trakassera konstnärer och artister i landet samt omedelbart släppa de som sitter häktade sedan protesterna i somras.
Några som skrivit på är Isabel Allende, Paul Auster, Meryl Streep, Zadie Smith, liksom Nobelpristagarna i litteratur J.M. Coetzee och Orhan Pamuk.
Sedan i somras har flera aktioner ägt rum i Kuba mot president Miguel Diáz-Canel, i vilka kubanska kulturpersoner haft en framträdande roll.
There are appeals to authority and appeals to false authority. And then there are appeals to Meryl Streep ...

​​​​​​​Intellectuals and artists from Mexico and the world expresses support for Cuba (Radio Cadena Agramonte, Nov 15, 2021)
https://www.cadenagramonte.cu/english/articulos/ver/33881:-intellectuals-and-artists-from-mexico-and-the-world-expresses-support-for-cuba
Cuba: el otro 15 de noviembre
The effective Cuban vaccines against Covid-19 are causing headaches in the White House, the State Department, the CIA, the intelligence community and, of course, in the counterrevolutionary stronghold of Miami. They are the archetypal symbol today of resistance against the northern empire, of independence, sovereignty and the triumph of life over disease and death.
The imperialist enemy and the counterrevolution wanted a bloodbath in Cuba on November 15. They knew that by that date, the pandemic on the island would be under control, the students would return to schools and universities, the airports would be opened to tourism, and the long night of the separation of friends and family - residents of Cuba and other countries - would end and so would much anguish and pain imposed by two almost full years of quarantine. The joy of the reunions would explode, whose most beautiful and promising metaphor is that of the students with their teachers. By the way, it has been exciting and festive. The time would also come to celebrate the feat achieved by the robust health and biosciences research system, by its selfless and heroic members, women and men, who lost so many lives to the virus in territories and hospitals and who with so much love and self-denial created vaccines in research centers and also other drugs, of which less has been said, very effective in reducing fatality among those infected. This indicator is considerably lower in Cuba than the world average and that of the Americas.
https://www.jornada.com.mx/2021/11/18/opinion/030a1mun

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Re: Cuba

Post by dann » Thu 17 Feb 2022, 11:27

What Cubans Want for 2022 (Belly of the Beast, Jan 1, 2022 - 3:00 min.)
2021 was a rough year for the Cuban people, who not only faced the pandemic, but devastating sanctions imposed by Trump and kept in place by Biden. So what are their hopes for 2022?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW8td26LO-M
Belly of the Beast is the home of Oliver Stone and Danny Glover's documentary series The War on Cuba:
https://www.bellyofthebeastcuba.com/the-war-on-cuba

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Re: Cuba

Post by dann » Fri 18 Feb 2022, 13:16

The protests in Cuba on July 11, 2021:
The War on Cuba — Episode 5 (Belly of the Beast on YouTube, Nov 13, 2021 - 20:54 min.)
On July 11, unprecedented protests erupted across Cuba. Most media organizations portrayed the demonstrations as a cry for freedom against Communism. But the reality was far more complex. Journalist Liz Oliva Fernández explores the root causes of the devastating economic crisis that has pushed Cuba to the brink. She takes the viewer to Cuba’s working class neighborhoods, where we see the impact of ever-intensifying U.S. sanctions during the COVID pandemic and the near fulfillment of a 1960 State Department memo justifying the purpose of the U.S. embargo: “[to deny] money and supplies...to decrease...wages, to bring about hunger, desperation, and overthrow of government.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WavOrU-g2E4

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Re: Cuba

Post by dann » Sun 20 Feb 2022, 14:56

How the U.S. blockade has killed Cubans during the pandemic

Three very short videos:
Mitchell Valdes-Sosa is the Director of The Cuban Center for Neuroscience. He busts the myth that the U.S. embargo hasn’t affected Cuba’s health care system in the midst of the COVID-19 pandemic by showing how sanctions have impeded Cuba from making its own masks, ventilators and swabs for PCR tests.
Sanctions In a Pandemic, Pt. 1 (Belly of the Beast on YouTube, Oct 9, 2021 - 2:33 min.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG5nMBI5RZg
Tania Urquiza Rodríguez is the Vice President of BioCubaFarma, the country's state-run biotech conglomerate. She breaks down how U.S. sanctions have impacted Cuba's ability to produce its own vaccines and medications during the COVID-19 pandemic.
Sanctions In a Pandemic, Pt. 2 (Belly of the Beast on YouTube, Oct 16, 2021 - 3:41 min.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaHWnyJ09hY
Eulogio Pimentel is Vice President of BioCubaFarma, the country’s state-run biotech conglomerate that has made two of the world’s top vaccines against the COVID-19 virus. He explains how U.S. sanctions have cost lives in Cuba by forcing a delay in the vaccines’ production.
Sanctions In a Pandemic, Pt. 3 (Belly of the Beast on YouTube, Oct 23, 2021 - 2:00 min.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwNoY86H8_I

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Re: Cuba

Post by dann » Mon 14 Mar 2022, 11:00

In case anybody is wondering what this post has got to do with the pandemic:
Tokig tant wrote:
Sun 06 Mar 2022, 17:42
Kreml måste avnazifieras. Nu.
Kubas president Miguel Díaz-Canel pussar Putin.
Ett avlägsnande av Putin, skulle i förlängningen innebära att kubanska medborgare skulle få yttrandefrihet, näringsfrihet och föreningsfrihet.
It has absolutely nothing to do with that pandemic, which is the reason why I have moved it to this thread:

1) Cuba's politics are its own, not Putin's, in spite of Cuba's dependency on maintaining relations with Russia due to the U.S. blockade. For instance, Cuba's gender policy is probably the most liberal of all Latin American countries, very much unlike the homophobia of Russia and other semi-fascist regimes of Eastern Europe. Considering Tokig tant's obsession with the color of Keith Begg's underwear, I think that she is very much in line with Putin on this issue - much like most fascist Americans.

2) It is obvious that Cuba hates the current war in Ukraine, not least because Cuba was always on friendly terms with the country. One of the many things that people don't know about Cuba because the Western media tends to be one-dimensional in its reporting is what Cuba has done for the victims of the Chernobyl meltdown:
http://en.escambray.cu/2021/tarara-the-story-of-chernobyl-children-in-cuba/
https://www.reuters.com/news/picture/chernobyl-victims-treated-in-cuba-idUSRTR2BZRV
I have visited the Tarara center for the treatment of children from Chernobyl a couple of times. I doubt that NATO or EU countries have done anything remotely similar to this.

3) In the current situation, Cuba has encouraged negotiaons between the Ukraine and Russia to end the war. That Cuba is also aware of the history leading up to the current war is not exceptional. The media of countries that are not busy bronwnosing NATO and the EU does not tend to align itself with the stories we are being told in the West. Indian WION, for instance, is worth watching for people who think that Putin's Russia is the only place where truth has become the casualty of war:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzgPJeYZaOU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1-uRaAbjUM

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Re: Cuba

Post by dann » Wed 15 Jun 2022, 06:42

Tokig tant wrote:
Tue 14 Jun 2022, 18:27
På Kuba fängslas människor som protesterar mot den kubanska regimen.

128 personer dömda till fängelse i 6 till 30 år.
Inget att förvånas över i en stat, styrd av det enda existerande och tillåtna partiet, kommunistpartiet.

Det kubanska folket förtjänar yttrandefrihet, näringsfrihet och föreningsfrihet.

BBC: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-60764403
In Sweden, it is obvious that Tokig tant is unable to read and understand a thread title: Vilka nationella eller regionala åtgärder mot coronavirus är evidensbaserade?
Posts about Cuba are relevant in that thread to the extent that they are about Cuba's pandemic response. I will answer her post in this thread about Cuba instead:

If Tokig tant had read the BBC article she links to, she would have known that she was lying. (And maybe she did read it and does know that she is lying but just doesn't care.)

1) In Cuba, people aren't jailed for protesting:
More than 100 people who took part in rare anti-government protests in Cuba in July have been sentenced to lengthy jail terms of between six and 30 years.
Out of the 129 defendants, only one was acquitted, with the remaining being found guilty of sedition and theft.
Thousands of Cubans took part in the demonstrations across the Communist-run island chanting for "freedom". (BBC)
So what happened to the thousands of Cubans demonstrating? Nothing. On the contrary, the Cuban president declared that he understood their frustration about the conditions in the middle of a pandemic that was hitting Cuba harder than most other countries at the time, July 2021, completely ruining tourism and leading to food shortages:
The War on Cuba — Episode 5 (Belly of the Beast on YouTube, Nov 13, 2021) 20:54 min
On July 11, unprecedented protests erupted across Cuba. Most media organizations portrayed the demonstrations as a cry for freedom against Communism. But the reality was far more complex. Journalist Liz Oliva Fernández explores the root causes of the devastating economic crisis that has pushed Cuba to the brink. She takes the viewer to Cuba’s working class neighborhoods, where we see the impact of ever-intensifying U.S. sanctions during the COVID pandemic and the near fulfillment of a 1960 State Department memo justifying the purpose of the U.S. embargo: “[to deny] money and supplies...to decrease...wages, to bring about hunger, desperation, and overthrow of government.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WavOrU-g2E4
The BBC version:
The protests, the largest in decades, came amid a severe economic crisis with protesters voicing anger over price increases, and shortages of food and medicine.
Many were also critical of the Cuban government's handling of the Covid pandemic.
The 128 people who were convicted weren't convicted for protesting. They also weren't convicted for "just singing in the streets and asking for food and to have a greater say in the future of their country" as claimed by the White House:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=13810520#post13810520

2) Until 2021 Cuba had managed to keep the infection down by means of face masks and restrictions, but with the arrival of the much more contagious Delta variant the number of daily new infections and daily deaths were rising rapidly, not least because Cuba had only begun to vaccinate people at that point, which at least to some extent was due to U.S. blockade against the island which prevented Cuba from getting some of chemicals necessary to produce its Soberana 2 and Soberana plus vaccines:
Sanctions In a Pandemic, Pt. 2 (Belly of the Beast on YouTube, Oct 16, 2021) 3:41 min in Spanish, texted in English
Tania Urquiza Rodríguez is the Vice President of BioCubaFarma, the country's state-run biotech conglomerate. She breaks down how U.S. sanctions have impacted Cuba's ability to produce its own vaccines and medications during the COVID-19 pandemic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaHWnyJ09hY
3) I myself didn't really start following what was happening in Cuba pandemic-wise until July 2021 when the Western world (and the USA in particular) suddenly took an interest due to the demonstrations on July 11:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=13533532#post13533532

As always, the pandemic response of other countries was only of interest when it was going bad, not as long as it was successful, which is also the reason why you have heard nothing about Cuba's extremely successful fight against the pandemic since the autumn of 2021. From June to September, Cuba's death toll overtook that of the USA, but after the country's extremely successful vaccination campaign (using its own vaccines) Covid was more or less defeated on the island. Links to graphs here: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=13808681#post13808681

Cubans did not want to learn to 'live with' the virus (neither do I!), and they have proved to the world that there is no need to.
It is no wonder that most of the rest of the world doesn't want to do any reporting on that! You also won't hear about Cuba having had no cases of monkey pox or the new hepatitis in children: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=13824635#post13824635

4) At this point Cuba has successfully vaccinated virtually everybody 2+ on the island. (Yes, Cubans also don't want children to learn to live with the virus! They are weird in that way, aren't they?!)
Schools did not reopen until all students had been vaccinated in mid-November 2021 when the country could celebrate its victory over the virus. At that point, the infamous Yunior Garcia attempted to spoil the celebration by staging more protests, hoping that something similar to July 11 would happen. But the attempt was an utter failure. Western news agencies reported that not a single one of their contacts in Cuba had heard anybody banging on pots and pans in protetest, which is what Garcia had encouraged them to do. And less than a week after his unsuccessful attempt, he got on a plane to Spain. At first, he tried to portray himself as a hero who had successfully escaped surveillance, fleeing to save his life, but then footage appeared of him strolling through the airport with his suitcase. I don't think there is a BBC article about that.

5) For about one month at this point, Cuba has had no Covid-19 deaths:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=13816367#post13816367
And two weeks ago, Cuba suspended its face-mask mandate - not because people have learned to live with the virus but because they don't have to!
Cuba lifts mask mandate as vaccination rate soars and deaths plummet (Reuters, May 31, 2022)
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/cuba-lifts-mask-mandate-vaccination-rate-soars-deaths-plummet-2022-05-31/
6) If I remember correctly, Sweden didn't allow protests of more than 50 people in 2021, but a discussion of that should probably be in another thread. Maybe in a thread dedicated to the many alleged freedoms of Sweden, right?!

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Re: Cuba

Post by dann » Wed 15 Jun 2022, 16:13

Big Pharma vs. Little Cuba: Why Cubans trust vaccines and how they’re helping vaccinate the world (The Conversation, March 16, 2022

Cuba’s public health
Vaccine hesitancy is rare in Cuba. Its COVID-19 policies and practices are fundamentally science-based. The Cuban government is garnering public support by protecting its citizens from grave illness and death; one of governments’ primary mandates.
This small nation blocked an Omicron spike through its vaccinations and social hygiene measures.
Not-for-profit and universal, Cuba’s public health incorporates standardized, robust immunization schedules that have been the norm for decades. Many medicines and vaccines in the country are created by publicly funded national labs.
Factual, positive analysis on Cuba typically draws fire internationally, with critics objecting that its government controls information.
https://theconversation.com/big-pharma-vs-little-cuba-why-cubans-trust-vaccines-and-how-theyre-helping-vaccinate-the-world-178119
Another Reuters article ignored by the Western mainstream media - while our children are 'learning to live with the virus':
Cuba's vaccine coverage and focus on children helped beat back Omicron, experts say (Reuters, Februar 17, 2022)
Cuba's widespread COVID-19 vaccination coverage and early move to inoculate its children proved pivotal in beating back the highly infectious Omicron variant before it ever took hold on the island, local and international experts say.
Omicron arrived in Cuba in December but fell far short of the pronounced spike in cases seen in many other places and infections have since fallen off by more than 80%, official data shows.
(...)
"It appears that Omicron is not going to have anywhere near the impact that Delta had in Cuba, or even the impact that it is having in other countries, nor will it exert the pressure on the hospital system as in other countries," Perez Riverol told Reuters.
Young children in particular have become vulnerable to the spread of Omicron in many countries as some vaccines, including those produced by Pfizer (PFE.N) , Moderna (MRNA.O) and Johnson and Johnson, have yet to be approved by global regulators for those under 5 years old.
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/cubas-vaccine-coverage-focus-children-helped-beat-back-omicron-experts-say-2022-02-17/

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Re: Cuba

Post by dann » Tue 12 Jul 2022, 09:57

Some people are incorrigible, and Tokig tant appears to be incapable of understanding that discussion threads come with themes and that posters are supposed to stick to those themes and not try to derail them like she does once again with this post from the thread about the pandemic:
Tokig tant wrote:
Tue 12 Jul 2022, 06:22
dann wrote:
Mon 11 Jul 2022, 20:38
My favorite Oscar Wilde quotation:
It will, of course, be said that such a scheme as is set forth here is quite unpractical, and goes against human nature. This is perfectly true. It is unpractical, and it goes against human nature. This is why it is worth carrying out, and that is why one proposes it. For what is a practical scheme? A practical scheme is either a scheme that is already in existence, or a scheme that could be carried out under existing conditions. But it is exactly the existing conditions that one objects to; and any scheme that could accept these conditions is wrong and foolish. The conditions will be done away with, and human nature will change.
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/wilde-oscar/soul-man/
What is unrealistic (or unpractical) is to accept the existing conditions in the name of realism.
Det är förmodligen därför som det kubanska kommunistpartiet accepterar den omfattande prostitutionen på Kuba.
And what might be the reason for the widespread prostitution in Sweden, then? Could it be an attitude problem? Could there be a parallel to the widespread coronavirus infections where the main objective seems to be to enable Swedes to remain in denial of the pandemic? If you don't test anymore, it is much easier to pretend that the pandemic is a thing of the past: "Nej, nej, inventing.Det är borta! It's gone!"
Sex Purchase Act has altered Swedes’ attitudes towards prostitution (ScienceNorway.no, Oct 27, 2017)
Although street prostitution has decreased in Sweden, Swedish authorities have, on the other hand, reported an increase in announcements for the indoor prostitution market in Sweden. According to Skilbrei, this may indicate that the so-called indoor market has grown.
“We can’t presume that the number of announcements equals the number of people, but they may be used as an indicator. Nevertheless, the conclusion is that we don’t know whether the total scale of the prostitution market in Sweden has increased or decreased,” says Skilbrei.
https://sciencenorway.no/forskningno-norway-prostitution/sex-purchase-act-has-altered-swedes-attitudes-towards-prostitution/1450681
But who really cares as long as prostituion can't be seen in the streets anymore, right?! Out of sight, out of mind.
That was not the case in Cuba after the Cuban revolution, which succeeded in virtually abolishing prostitution:
Prostitution in Havana (Selling Sex in the City: A Global History of Prostitution, 1600s-2000s, Aug 23, 2017)
The Cuban Revolution of 1959—which evolved into a Marxist-Leninist regime—did not make false promises about eliminating the sex industry. The new revolutionary government sought to eliminate gambling and prostitution, condemning them as vices connected to us imperialism and to the regime of Cuban dictator Fulgencio Batista. The new regime abolished street prostitution, brothels, pornographic theatres, and casas de cita; in short, all businesses related to sexualized entertainment were banned. This was followed by a government programme that sought to “rehabilitate” sex workers through alternative forms of employment and education. Women were trained and given jobs at various kinds of factories, laboratories, and offices. Pimping was punished by heavy fines. Many men and women, however, refused to be placed in the rehabilitation centres and some fled the country. The reforms, nevertheless, were successful in the eradication of visible commercial sex. Only a small number of prostitutes were said to be practicing in Havana by the time of the economic collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991.
https://brill.com/view/book/9789004346253/BP000020.xml
But after having been virtually abolished after the revolution, when poverty returned, so did prostitution (and religion, but that is another story).
Prostitution and Sex Tourism in Cuba (ASCECuba, Nov 30, 2001)
It has been estimated that before the Revolution, there were 40,000 prostitutes in the country, although the government claims that number may have been as high as 100,000 (Department of the Army, 1985).
(...)
Castro brought the sex business to a virtual halt. He announced as a revolutionary goal to end prostitution and incorporate Cuban women into working society. By liberating women from the bounds of the machista society, Castro hoped to capture their support. The government also anticipated that the addition of women to the work force would help increase production and boost the economy.
In 1961, the Federation of Cuban Women (FMC) was founded and Raúl Castro’s wife, Vilma Espín, was named president. The FMC worked to rehabilitate ex-prostitutes and assimilate them into society. The FMC touched every part of women’s life. It proclaimed a new family code that gave women more freedom from household chores. It initiated literacy campaigns for women, trained housewives to become seamstresses or tobacco rollers, and organized day care centers so women could go to work (Smith and Padula, 1996).
As a result of these reforms, many women gained access to education and employment and did not turn to prostitution. Over the last 25 years, the number of working women has increased by one million. By 2000, females represented 43% of the work force and occupied a majority of technical jobs (World Bank, 2001).3 Furthermore, the absence of tourism reduced the demand for, and financial attractiveness of, prostitution.
In 1991, the Soviet Union collapsed and Cuba fell into an economic crisis.
(...)
There are three main reasons that Cuban women turn to prostitution. The first and main reason is economic necessity.
https://www.ascecuba.org/asce_proceedings/prostitution-and-sex-tourism-in-cuba/
So with the dissolution of the Comecon, poverty returned to the island in the early 1990s and so did prostitution. In the mid to late 1990s, however, when the Cuban economy had stabilized somewhat, the government clamped down on prostitution again - much to the dismay of some people:
The government’s actions successfully eliminated much of the prostitution in Varadero, but also threatened the future of the tourism industry on the peninsula. In an article dated June 10, 1996, the Dallas Morning News quotes a Varadero hotel employee: “There are very few jineteras around…The bars and beaches are almost empty. This is very sad.”
But the sad truth about prostitution, the truth that both the johns and many critics don't want to see, is that poverty is the root cause of it. Nobody wants to sell sex if they have a better alternative. That is why it was possible for the Cuban revolution to abolish the sex trade. And that is why it returned with the economic hardships of the 1990s
After the collapse of the Soviet Union, the state could no longer provide for its citizens. The economic reforms of 1993-94, intended to save socialism, encouraged Cubans to become economically independent from the state. With the legalization of U.S. dollars, a dual economy emerged creating the largest contradiction in Cuban society. People that remained loyal to the revolution were paid in almost worthless Cuban pesos. People who abandoned their jobs for self-employment, or worked on the black market, could earn valuable U.S. dollars. This contradiction led to a demoralization of Cuban society. One must break the law to survive. No one can afford to make personal sacrifices for the state because the state can no longer play the role of the provider. Out of this dichotomy prostitution re-emerged.
When Castro ended prostitution after the Revolution, he attempted to change the social conditions that encouraged prostitution. He expanded education and provided new jobs for women.
That is also why Sweden's attitude to prostitution has only managed to hide it, which may be good for Sverigebilden but not for anything else.

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Post by Vitnir » Tue 12 Jul 2022, 16:25

Vi hade nog också kunnat få bort prostitutionen om vi också hade skickat alla misstänkta till "omskolningsläger" utan rättegång.
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Post by dann » Tue 12 Jul 2022, 17:23

So why don't you? Is it against Swedish principles to give prostitutes an education and a way out of prostitution into real jobs?
And why do you describe that as ""omskolningsläger" utan rättegång"? Is it because you are happy with continued prostitution as long as the prostitutes get away from the street so proper Swedes no longer see them?
Does access to education in Sweden usually require "rättegång"?

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Re: Cuba

Post by dann » Thu 22 Sep 2022, 16:48

Some people don't understand to purpose of thread titles. Tokig tant is one of them. So one shouldn't expect her to understand anything as complicated as general elections in foreign countries, which she doesn't:
Tokig tant wrote:
Thu 22 Sep 2022, 15:07
Befolkningen på Kuba kan rösta endast på kandidater godkända av det kubanska kommunistpartiet.
Det kubanska folket förtjänar yttrandefrihet, näringsfrihet och föreningsfrihet.
Kommunism innebär förtryck. Kommunistiska styren bör alltid avlägsnas.
I demokratier kan vem som helst bilda politiska partier och ställa upp i val.
2018 Cuban parliamentary election (Wikipedia)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Cuban_parliamentary_election
On Sunday, Cuba has a referendum on a new family law, which has been debated extensively for more than a year:
Reasons to vote Yes for the new Family Code (Granma.cu, Sep 20, 2022)
The new Family Code will be submitted to a popular referendum on Sunday, September 25 after a broad consultation process in which more than 6,480,000 Cubans participated.
https://en.granma.cu/cuba/2022-09-20/reasons-to-vote-yes-for-the-new-family-code
Los derechos ni se sancionan ni se censuran (Granma.cu, Sep 21, 2022)
https://www.granma.cu/codigo-de-las-familias/2022-09-21/los-derechos-ni-se-sancionan-ni-se-censuran-21-09-2022-01-09-24
Rechte für alle (Granma.cu, Sep 21, 2022)
https://de.granma.cu/cuba/2022-09-21/rechte-fur-alle
Will the Western media report on this? Will it report on the discussions involving a majority of Cubans? I doubt it.
Will it report on the attempts by Evangelicals, supported by the USA, to prevent Cuba from legalizing same-sex marriage? Some Western media has mentioned it, but most broadcasters aren't really interested.
More here: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=13907523#post13907523
But it probably won't interest Tokig tant. She is more concerned about the color of Keith Begg's underwear and would probably side with the Evangelicals in this question.

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